*************PUBLIC POST************** (probably sure to bring out the haters)
I read this in my Sunday paper and I thought it was a very nice homage to an exiting President (instead of the last minute vitriol that we have been seeing, seriously, why is that neccessary? The guy is out, you honestly have to get one last sucker punch in? I've never been more stunned by how hateful people can be than during the last 8 years, but I digress...)
Here is the link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090103/ap_on_go_pr_wh/distinctly_bush_analy...
Some highlights:
- In sessions with policy experts, Bush tends to ask questions that get right to the nub of a sticky issue. His top aides speak regretfully about how the country never got to see that side of him, even after all this time. They describe a man who is deeply inquisitive, not blithely incurious as much of the world thinks.
- His tangled moments have undoubtedly helped shape an unflattering public perception; there are entire books of his "Bushisms." Invariably, though, people who talk to him privately — historians, journalists, dissidents — come away with a very different impression of a meticulous thinker.
- Bush can flash a temper and impatience. But if he takes criticism personally — and he gets lots of criticism — he tries not to show it. When former press secretary Scott McClellan wrote a scathing book about Bush's leadership, the president told his senior aides to let it go. "Find a way to forgive, because that's the way to lead your life," White House press secretary Dana Perino remembers Bush advising her.
- He shows consideration to people close to him in little ways. He sends birthday notes to staff members. He remembers little details about their families. When he visits an Army post to thank the troops, he's been known to wander into the kitchen, too, to praise whoever cooked him the french fries.
- Nowhere is that more true than at his beloved, secluded ranch in Crawford, Texas. He has spent more than a year of his presidency there. Bush chops cedar, clears brush and builds mountain bike trails there. The summer heat doesn't bother him so much as enthrall him. He even set up a little competition, true Bush: People who work for him get a coveted T-shirt and bragging rights if they run for three straight miles on days hitting 100 degrees.
Rocket Dog
This was a great read haus! I'll definitely read the full article later too. I'm glad to see the AP published this. Good for them.
1I really loved reading those things. I could never think of him as the evil man that others paint him as being, and it is really nice to read some other sides to him.
2Thanks for posting, haus! I'm trying to remember if at any time during the past 8 years, he ever brought embarassment to the White House like his predecessor did. By golly, I don't think he ever had to make the statement, "I did NOT have sex with that woman..." I'm not sure why Hillary didn't yank a knot into Billary (except for prostituting herself in order to stay in the WH), but I have an idea Michelle might.
3Hauf, thank you for posting this!
Bush is/was underestimated & mocked to death by the MSM. I already miss him as I read about the new group coming to town (which everyone knows is just the old Clinton White House staff who are now 8 years older)
4President Bush will be up there with the "near greats" when historians look back at his administration and accomplishments. It will take five to ten years before we will see the change, i am guessing, but the further out in time you go, the more credit will he get for his accomplishments.
5I agree, Grandpa. Now, go rent Mrs. Doubtfire.
6Grandpa, haus and cc, agree agree agree- and agree some more. better than you know you know you know you know....?
7I do I do I do
8ha Pam! I know right, my hubby just said to me the other day "I guess when Obama meant change, he meant back to how it was in the mid 90s"
If scrunchies come back, I'm sooooo moving to Canada!
9" i am guessing, but the further out in time you go, the more credit will he get for his accomplishments."
10I never want to disappoint Haus: so Grandpa, what accomplishments?
*************PUBLIC POST************** (probably sure to bring out the haters)
This maybe should have been private then.
11uhhh it was a joke. you know, like HA HA? if i really didn't want to bring out the haters, I would have made it private.
but i think its important for people to consider that it may actually be POSSIBLE that they don't know every single thing about President Bush.
I know. It's shocking. I'll let it sink in for a bit.
12Oh, I saw that on the AP the other day! I love reading personal stuff like this about a president.
I don't think Bush is evil or anything. Just...bad at his job. I've worked with lots of people who were nice people but not in a position that suited their skills. It's nice to hear nice things about him.
Anyways, I think it's interesting that you're appalled by the criticism of Bush when you criticized Obama for wearing a backwards baseball cap and wearing swim trunks at the beach. But it's always harder to hear criticism of someone you supported.
13TS I appreciate that you seem to be capable of rational thought when it comes to Bush adn able to separate out the person from your disagreements with his policies. Unfortunately I think you are in the minority as the hate directed towards him makes no seperation.
Although, you can't possibly think that me criticizing Obama for putting himself in line for paparazzi shots and dressing like a punk kid is equal to the criticism Bush has gotten over the last 8 years. I mean really? There is no way on Earth that those are the same.
Besides, its not what Obama wore its that he's a smart guy and I think he could figure out that the paparazzi isn't going to stalk him for a picture of him in another suit, however they will stalk for a picture that they can sell. I mean, geesh, even Paris Hilton knows that.
14I think that it is justified to criticize an outgoing President, given that the country has had eight years to observe him and the effects of his administration's policies.
15Regardless, my point in posting this was to show that things are not always as they seem and that he is a person who loves his country and always acted in what he thought was its best interest.
I think if people could remember that more often they would be ashamed of the things they've said of him.
16Again, missing the point, criticism is one thing, sucker punch is another.
17It just seems to me that both have received unreasonable criticisms. That's the comparison I was making.
In my opinion, it's more valid to criticize Bush for taking us into the war than to criticize Obama's strategies with the media, but I might think differently had I voted for Bush and not voted for Obama.
18There have been many cheap shots taken at him in the last few weeks (well, truthfully during the last 8 years but for sake of argument...) that have no fact based or policy based merit. That is a sucker punch. That is one last kick that is completely unnecessary.
19Thats because you disagree with the war TS. Many people didn't and still don't.
20So, though, is it justifiable criticism to bash on Obama for his baseball cap and shirtless beach romp, as TS put it, and sucker punches to point out that many of the very serious problems currently facing this country appear to have originated in large part with Bush and his administration?
21"no fact based or policy based merit. That is a sucker punch. That is one last kick that is completely unnecessary."
What is "that"? I must have missed the example you're making.
22I'm sure he thought he was doing what he thought was best for the country. No one wakes up and thinks, "Today I'm going to be a bad guy!" But to be honest, him remembering birthdays doesn't really cast some new light.
And I'm not sure what you mean by cheap shots. Cheap shots like, say, referring to someone as Stinky? Calling him a socialist? Making fun of how he speaks?
23How quickly we have forgotten 9-11....
24I also support the going shirtless and the backwards cap. But regardless, I think any criticism of foreign policy is more legit than any of wardrobe.
25>How quickly we have forgotten 9-11....
What the f*ck?
26I certainly haven't forgotten 9/11, nor the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with the attack, or the fact that Afghanistan, which did, quickly fell to second place once the Iraq war began.
27I also haven't forgotten how Bush sat still for, what was it, seven minutes? After being told our country was under attack.
28that = the cheap shots that have been made in the last few weeks
fact based and policy based disagreements are always valid. calling him "stupid" like nancy pelosi did or some of the remarks harry reid has made and others in the last few weeks are not policy based. they are childhood taunts meant just to get one last dig in.
you may respect that, I don't. thats ok.
honestly i really didn't think my comments on Obama walking around shirtless and wearing a backwards cap were so inflammatory! i would have thought that everyone would think that now that he's the president he should dress like the president, but again, i guess i'm wrong. i suppose i'm just stodgy and formal.
it seems like you guys are trying to twist this to seem like this is the biggest issue i have with Obama. i think you both know thats not the case. this is just something that bugged me.
29Calling Obama a socialist has merit. I mean there was a 12 part series in Investors Business Daily about it.
I never made fun of the way he spoke, nor did I call him stinky, so you can send that somewhere else.
30I'd like to see how quickly you might have reacted under the same pressure. Oh, wait a minute. No I wouldn't.
We got into the war because of terrorism, and we are still in the war because of terrorism, and you liberals can't seem to get it. F-R-E-E-D-O-M.
Isn't there a liberal sugar site y'all can hang out at?
31"i would have thought that everyone would think that now that he's the president he should dress like the president, but again, i guess i'm wrong. i suppose i'm just stodgy and formal."
So you also had a problem with Bush's cowboy casual weekend look, right?
32I think we're all just sort of...I mean it's such an odd thing to criticize someone for.
>i would have thought that everyone would think that now that he's the president he should dress like the president
How does the president dress on the beach? Should he have put on the blue tie? Trunks with the presidential seal?
33Oh come on TS that is so off base. Seriously, he was with children. What was he supposed to do? Run out of the room screaming, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD?!?!
I mean really. Thats pretty petty. I think anyone with children would agree that when a crisis hits it's important to stay calm as to not frighten them.
34I want my tax dollars to go to trunks with a presidential seal!
actually no, speedo would be better.
I have no problem with Bush's cowboy look because he was fully clothed, nearly never photographed, and didn't look like a hoodlum.
35>I'd like to see how quickly you might have reacted under the same pressure. Oh, wait a minute. No I wouldn't.
Seriously. Sit still and do nothing for seven minutes. That is a looong time. We live in an age of nuclear and biological warfare where minutes can make the difference. He's the commander in chief, and someone attacked us on our soil, and he sat there. I can't even imagine having no reaction like that. Not even a "Really? Tell me more!"
36Not to mention didn't he only dress like that on the ranch, when he was doing ranch things?
37Hoodlum? Are you serious? I'm starting to feel like you're putting us on...like this morning you were like, "You know what will make the liberals mad..."
38>Not to mention didn't he only dress like that on the ranch, when he was doing ranch things?
Right, like Obama was just rocking swim trunks and a cap in the Oval...
39Boy you know, the guy can't wait. If he would have jumped up and done something, I'm sure it would have been the wrong thing. Everyone would be all "oh he should have thought it through!" but he sits there and thinks for a second, takes time to gather his thoughts and formulate a plan, and THATS the wrong thing.
Its not really even worth discussing because no matter what he does it's always wrong to some people.
40>Oh come on TS that is so off base. Seriously, he was with children. What was he supposed to do? Run out of the room screaming, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD?!?!
>I mean really. Thats pretty petty. I think anyone with children would agree that when a crisis hits it's important to stay calm as to not frighten them.
Okay, now you're channeling Elisabeth Hasselback.
A simple, "Well, I'm the president and I'm busy, kids! Gotta go!" And honestly, honestly, a roomful of frightened children is MORE important than the safety of the damn country?!
41No I don't have it in me to make liberals mad. I'm sure my mere existence makes liberals mad.
But yes, I equate a backwards hat with dressing like a hoodlum. Obviously he's not a hoodlum but I don't want him to look like one.
Again, maybe thats just me being square and old fashioned. I'd rather someone err on the side of being too formal than not formal enough.
42Um, what was whispered in his ear was enough info for him to sit there for seven minutes making a plan?
43I think that Elizabeth Hasselback reference was supposed to be an insult.
Either way, I think its a petty thing to fault him for and like I said, if he would have jumped up and left I'm sure there would be some to fault him for that.
Personally, I'm glad he didn't jump up and run out on those kids. I'd rather he take the time to formulate a plan and not alarm anyone. Thats the kind of leader I want.
44"i would have thought that everyone would think that now that he's the president he should dress like the president, but again, i guess i'm wrong. i suppose i'm just stodgy and formal."
So you would prefer to see him coming out of the water with a tie or working out in a three piece suit? Come on Haus, those attacks are petty and you know it.
45Maybe he sat there for seven minutes PRAYING. Or maybe he was trying to think quickly of what he could say to the American people who just suffered the worst attack on US soil.
Who knows what he was thinking.
It is kinda funny though that you're faulting him for thinking too much. I thought the Bush bashing MO was that he doesn't think enough?
46That's just exactly what she said. Better not scare the children!
What kind of plan is this? How to exit the room without frightening the children? How to retaliate? How to keep us safe? I am confused about what he was doing there.
And it is just silly to say it was a good thing for him to sit there. We no longer live in a world where we're worried about troops moving in that will take months to have in place. We're worried about nuclear weapons that can reach us in 45 minutes.
47"prostituting herself?" That's a disgusting thing to say.
Everyone else. Hello and I hope that you are having a nice Wednesday evening.
48Stephley, I can think of three off the top of my head. (I already know you will slam me on #1.)
1) Bush freed 60 million people from a vicious tyrant, who used weapons of mass destruction not only on his neighbor, but also his own citizens. In so doing, Bush broke the back of al-Qaeda, and destroyed a significant number of senior al-Qaeda operatives sent into Iraq. We now have a former rabid anti American regime, with the VERY FIRST Arab democracy.
2) NO ONE has done more to combat aids, and done more to improve overall heath in Africa.
3)Bush actually got us out of post 9/11 recession and gave us a damned good economy up to 2008. Only historians will determine who or what led to the current world wide recession. I think they will determine that President Bush's policies were of minimal impact.
The debate will be held in the future, not today, and will be based on internal administration papers that will become available over time.
49OMG SERIOUSLY.
I can't beleive how pissy you guys are about that. I'm not apoligizing. It bothers me. I'm sure it doesn't bother everyone. But it bothered me. But its pretty low on the list of what bothers me about Obama so I really don't get it. Its like you're all stunned I didn't like something about him.
Really?? I mean have you not read anything I've said ever?
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