With the new outrages stats that have come out today with regards to deaths related to Swine Flu, I thought I would post this article.
http://www.reuters.com/article/americasCrisis/idUSN11383966
ANALYSIS-New US swine flu death estimates will be guess
Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:56pm EST
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* Flu deaths based on estimates* Data take months to collect* This pandemic spares the elderly -- to a pointBy Maggie Fox, Health and Science EditorWASHINGTON, Nov 11 (Reuters) - U.S. health officials are due to release new estimates of deaths from swine flu on Thursday, but the numbers will be just that -- a rough estimate.The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization stopped trying to count actual cases months ago, once it became clear that H1N1 was a pandemic that would infect millions.There are nowhere near enough diagnostic tests to give to everyone with flu-like symptoms to see if they really have swine flu, and autopsies have shown that some people who have died had H1N1 and no one even knew it.So the death figures will be based on models, calculated by looking intensively at small groups of people, gathering data on overall reports of sickness and death, and reconciling the two.This is also what happens every year with seasonal influenza, which WHO says kills 250,000 to 500,000 people a year globally and which CDC says kills 36,000 Americans in an average year.Will this pandemic kill even more?Not necessarily. Seasonal flu attacks about 20 percent of the population in an average year but it is the elderly who are the most likely to die. These patients often have other conditions and a flu infection can be the last straw that kills them.H1N1 is hitting a younger population -- adults in their 20s and 30s and children. The latest counts from CDC showed that 1,000 have died so far, including 129 children.The global count is more than 6,000, according to WHO.It is possible that these younger patients may be more likely to survive their bout of flu, even if they have chronic conditions.Doctors are comparing information about who is the most likely to die.MEXICAN STUDYA study in The Lancet medical journal released late on Wednesday shows that in Mexico, where the new flu appears to have spread first last March, young people were the most likely to be infected but elderly were most likely to die.This study matches one published last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association that showed 11 percent of Californians hospitalized for H1N1 died, but among people 50 and older, 18 to 20 percent who went to a hospital died.A CDC estimate released last month suggested that up to 20,000 people were hospitalized with H1N1 through July and that 6 percent of hospitalized patients died, or about 1,300 people.Seasonal flu has a death rate of less than 0.1 percent. The worst pandemic, such as the influenza pandemic of 1918, had a mortality rate of 2 percent or more.The Mexican study also found that infants and people aged 39 years and under were the most likely to get infected, but that far fewer than 1 percent of these patients died.Ten percent of patients over 70 who were treated in clinics died, they found.They found that 4.5 percent of patients aged 50 to 59 died, but just 2.7 percent of those in their 40s and 2 percent of patients in their 30s.These were all people who attended clinics that were part of the Mexican Institute for Social Security network, the Institute's Victor Borja-Aburto and colleagues reported, so milder cases for which patients did not seek treatment were not included in the analysis.Mexicans who had been vaccinated for seasonal influenza had a 35 percent lower risk of getting H1N1, even though the seasonal flu vaccine offers no protection against the new virus.Every day of delay in hospital admission after the fourth day of illness raised the risk of death by almost 20 percent, Borja-Aburto's team found.The study shows hard hard it is to get a grip on flu deaths, as doctors cannot assess or count people who do not show up for treatment.And numbers take months to collect. The latest Mexican data includes cases from April to July.
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Its the flu. People get it, suffer and usually recover unless of course you have the National Health Plan and then you might die waiting to see a triage nurse and then waiting some more to actually see a doctor. And i am sure "0" & Rahm will not waste this Crisis.
Wash your hands, hold your breathe if someone sneezes and take your vitamin C.
1Probioitics along with Vit C. 70% of your immunity is in your gut.
I just love how now they are claiming 4,000 deaths. When I saw this article last night I totally knew that I would see the stats go through the roof in todays report.
2I love how they are adding deaths from Pneumonia, without proof that it was H1N1 related.
3also black elderberry syrup from israel made for adults and kids unless you are boycotting all things Jewish then i guess that person will be one of the 4,000. hmmm i think i am a touch cranky.
washing hands with soap and water - i think this antibacterial stuff has made people especially kids more susceptible to germs.
4i wonder if they will add the cat that got it into the stats?
5I am a member of an on line pregnancy group and you should see how the women are freaking out over H1N1. They all think if they are exposed to the virus they are going to die. I keep trying to explain how they are skewing the numbers, but no one listens.
And CG I was thinking the same thing. I also love how there are no stats from pregnant women dying of regular flu.
6Where would you get this syrup Sam? I love the Israelis
7It doesn't even matter because all I hear now is if you call and say you're sick they just give you the Tamiflu without swabbing you and checking to make sure it's H1N1.
So I don't buy any of it.
8It is true Haus. Even at my Midwifes office they said the CDC is not tracking it anymore and the people above them have said to tell their patients if they have flu like symptoms to not even come into the office, they will just call in a prescription.
They really have not been tracking since August according to my health care provider.
9Anything is H1N1 as said above..
I find it weird that I'm not in the 'target' group for the vaccine though -- inflammatory bowel disease and taking an immunosuppressant.
10I just keep telling people to wash their hands.
Seriously, sometimes I wonder if anyone teaches the proper way to veil a cough or sneeze. How hard can it possibly be to grab your shirt opening and cough/sneeze inside there?
Good grief!
11the syrup goes by the name sambucol it is made in a kid formula, sugar free, cold & fu formula, immune formula & original. They have a website: http://www.sambucolusa.com/
Here in NY I buy it at the vitamin shoppe but I believe most health food stores carry it and I think so does whole foods.
Laura I just heard you are in the target group. It was in a quick mention and I thought of you running around your Dr's office being chased by a person in white with a needle yelling NO you will never get me.
12I heard a while back that my state had quit doing the diagnostic tests and were just counting anyone who had flu symptoms as someone with H1N1. Talk about skewing the numbers!
13well if you can't use a crisis to your advantage, what good is it?
14When I was sick (with Strep), my doctor said basically the same thing, that he thought it was the flu. He finally relented and gave me a prescription for strep, as well as prescriptions for the flu. I only filled the strep prescription, and surprisingly, after a day of taking that, I was better.
15if a flu is viral why would he write a prescription? Drugs only work on bacterial infections like your strep. This is what leads to all the drug resistant forms of illnesses.
16It is not the flu per se that kills you it is indeed the resulting pneumonia. Unless you have gone through it, it is hard to describe, other then slow suffocation.
17Tamiflu should just be an over-the-counter med...but then if they did that then it wouldn't be covered by insurance.
It is one of those "greater-good" issues they face like way back when you had to get a Dr to prescribe something for a yeast infection. I just think it should be over-the-counter which would eliminate most flu cases from getting horrific...many people can't/won't go in until it is really bad.
My brother and all of his kids had the flu for the past two weeks but thinking about taking 9 children into an urgent care center when you feel like crap yourself was simply not an option.
Thank goodness I work where I do...A Dr friend called in Tamiflu for all of them and I picked up and dropped it off to them. Without it they would have all been sick for probably 4-6 weeks.
It should be over the counter.
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