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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6644883.ece
From The Times
July 6, 2009
Barack Obama makes basic error over balance of power in Kremlin
Tony Halpin: Commentary
President Obama has made his first mistake in Russia even before he arrives in Moscow today. His attempt to cast Vladimir Putin as yesterday’s man and to drive a wedge between the Prime Minister and President Medvedev demonstrates a misreading of relations in the Kremlin.
Mr Medvedev is in office but not in power and whether he becomes President in more than name depends on Mr Putin’s support and intentions. Mr Medvedev may represent a more accommodating face of Russia but this is only because Mr Putin wants him to.
Mr Obama declared: “I think that it’s important that even as we move forward with President Medvedev that Putin understand that the old Cold War approaches to US-Russian relations is outdated . . . Putin has one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new.” That suggests that Mr Medvedev’s outlook differs from that of his mentor despite a lack of evidence. Mr Putin is not known as a bad judge of character and he himself described his successor as “no less a Russian nationalist than I am”.
Mr Putin’s dominance was evident at the start of last year’s war in Georgia, when he directed operations in South Ossetia. Foreign relations are also the responsibility of the President. But Mr Putin has been an active globetrotter and does not hesitate to involve himself in policy in a way that would have been unthinkable for any of his prime ministers.
He told Japanese leaders during a recent visit that Tokyo would have to meet Moscow’s terms for a formal peace treaty ending the Second World War, adding that Mr Medvedev would raise the issue at next week’s G8 summit in Italy. Nobody would have dared dictate his presidential agenda for him. One Western diplomat told The Times that Mr Putin continued to hold 90 per cent of power. Mr Obama’s decision to meet him is an admission that he holds sway and everyone from President Hu Jintao of China to European Union leaders make the same journey.
Mr Medvedev’s utterances about enforcing the rule of law remain just that — and are tainted by the blatantly rigged manner of his election. Mr Obama will ignore that detail in talking up their “very good relationship”. But if Mr Putin decides to return to the presidency in 2012 — and it is his decision — then Mr Obama will be dealing directly by the end of his first term with a man he has dismissed.
He may have played into Mr Putin’s hands. Despite the old pals’ act with George W. Bush, the Kremlin became increasingly anti-American over Nato expansion, missile defence in Eastern Europe, and Washington’s support for pro-Western leaders in Georgia and Ukraine.
Mr Obama’s pledge to press the reset button in relations was seen by Moscow as confirmation that Russia was right all along. Russia did not offer to change its attitudes.
Unless the US is preparing to abandon those policies, Mr Putin will feel justified in declaring that there is no sign of the new era. This would be a gift for the Kremlin as it struggles to decide how to deal with the phenomenon of a globally popular US president after Mr Bush.
It would allow Mr Putin to pursue Moscow’s strategic goal of dividing Europe from the US by casting America as unreasonable over Russian security concerns, and then using energy politics to keep Europe divided against itself.
Mr Obama is coming to the table like a card sharp to a casino, ready to charm his hosts and pull aces from his sleeve to win support for crucial objectives in Afghanistan and Iran. But Russia is a land of chess players, cautious and calculating. Mr Putin does not respond to charm — and he has just closed Russia’s casinos.
No Romeo
I'm a flipping housewife from Ohio & I know that Putin is pulling Medvedev's strings. How is it that Obama does not? It just freaks me out to no end that this ignorant fool is running our country.
1Cause when your ego is so big, it chokes off the blood flow to your rational thinking brain parts. That and he is an idiot surrounded by bigger idiots.
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"I will marshal all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide." - In the Loop
^^I agree!
3I foresee this meeting as one which is destined to eclipse Jack Kennedy's first meetings with Nikita Kruschev. Kennedy, amiable and charismatic, later admitted that he was ill prepared for those meetings and it is history's conclusion that Kennedy;s failure allowed Kruschev to press his advantage in several ways, not the least of which brought us to the very brink of nuclear war. (In the mid to late 90's when I read the newly declassified material, I, along with so many others, discovered that the Soviets had their fingers on the firing buttons which would have started WWIII. Up until that point, we never knew it had been that close.)
4Obama is set on a similar path of self-destruction, as the writer indicates, but the stakes are indeed significantly higher. Sadly, I don't regard Obama as in the intellectual class as Kennedy, specifically in Kennedy's ability to admit that he had made an error. I believe, judging from the hubris displayed up to this point in his administration, Obama is not only incapable of recognizing the stark reality in the Russian hierarchy, but also incapable of recognizing that he can make a mistake. It is unfortunate that the American people will have to pay the significant price in many ways.
Way to antagonize the people you are getting ready to meet with Pres. Obama. Maybe he thinks if he says it, it will happen.
5hmmmm on that theory...... I am 5lbs. lighter. No, nothing.

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"I will marshal all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide." - In the Loop
That's a good point Eleu. I don't necessarily blame O entirely. Look at the multitudes that have turned a blind eye on O's mistakes. I'm not going to call O "Hitler", but he's made the same basic mistake, and that is surronding yourself with people who can't see what you do, because they are too infatuated with your personality. It's unfortunate that GWB was so villified by the press and the left that this guy didn't really have to campaign against anyone. I can only HOPE that the press will quickly take off their rose-colored glasses, and see this man for the amateur he really is.
7"US President Barack Obama and Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev reach a deal in Moscow to cut back their stockpiles of nuclear weapons. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8136918.stm
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"I will marshal all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide." - In the Loop
Though I may be cynical, the deal will probably entail us dismantling ICBM sites and the Russians agreeing to pour another layer of concrete over Chernobyl.
9Although I don't believe Obama is Mensa material, I can't believe he's as foolish as his behavior since inauguration would lead me to believe, especially since he's been quite consistent.
What it may be is quite worrying, and I think more people need to start asking hard questions and trying to ferret it out.
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Conservative in exile
Washington and Sacramento: Stealing our children's futures.
I was reading an article by caroline glick which had this tidbit:
"This much was made clear by a New York Times report on Sunday which discussed a recently "rediscovered" 1983 article Obama published in a student magazine on the subject of nuclear disarmament when he was an undergraduate at Columbia University.
Obama's article, "Breaking the war mentality," was ostensibly a feature story showcasing two student organizations that advocated a freeze in the US's nuclear arsenal. But the young Obama didn't hesitate to use his platform to make his own, even more radical views known to his readers. As he put it: "The narrow focus of the Freeze movement, as well as academic discussion of first- versus second-strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion-dollar erector sets."
Citing a Rastafarian reggae musician as his foreign policy authority, Obama ruminated, "When Peter Tosh sings that 'everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice,' one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem, instead of the disease itself."
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"I will marshal all the forces of darkness to hound you to an assisted suicide." - In the Loop
Is this the only known piece of legitimate information about Barack Obama's position on things? I'm glad they found at least one...or more accurately, that they found one of which George Soros didn't dispose.
12To be fair, when I was a college student, I had visions of world nuclear disarmament too. It frightens me that someone could mature by more than a few years and still have the same naive positions however.
"Nobody would have dared dictate his presidential agenda for him."
sorry...that sentence just grabbed me.
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