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The price of dissent on global warming
By David Bellamy
Nov. 25, 2008
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24700827-7583,00.html
WHEN I first stuck my head above the parapet to say I didn't believe what we were being told about global warming, I had no idea what the consequences would be. I am a scientist and I have to follow the directions of science, but when I see that the truth is being covered up I have to voice my opinions.
According to official data, in every year since 1998, world temperatures have been getting colder, and in 2002 Arctic ice actually increased. Why, then, do we not hear about that? The sad fact is that since I said I didn't believe human beings caused global warming, I've not been allowed to make a television program.
My absence has been noticed, because wherever I go I meet people who say: "I grew up with you on the television, where are you now?"
It was in 1996 that I criticised wind farms while appearing on children's program Blue Peter, and I also had an article published in which I described global warming as poppycock. The truth is, I didn't think wind farms were an effective means of alternative energy, so I said so. Back then, at the BBC you had to toe the line, and I wasn't doing that.
At that point, I was still making loads of TV programs and I was enjoying it greatly. Then I suddenly found I was sending in ideas for TV shows and they weren't getting taken up. I've asked around about why I've been ignored, but I found that people didn't get back to me. At the beginning of this year there was a BBC show with four experts saying: "This is going to be the end of all the ice in the Arctic," and hypothesising that it was going to be the hottest summer ever. Was it hell! It was very cold and very wet and now we've seen evidence that the glaciers in Alaska have started growing rapidly, and they have not grown for a long time.
I've seen evidence, which I believe, that says there has not been a rise in global temperature since 1998, despite the increase in carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere. This makes me think the global warmers are telling lies: CO2 is not the driver. The idiot fringe has accused me of being like a Holocaust denier, which is ludicrous. Climate change is all about cycles. It's a natural thing and has always happened. When the Romans lived in Britain they were growing very good red grapes and making wine on the borders of Scotland. It was evidently a lot warmer.
If you were sitting next to me 10,000 years ago, we'd be under ice. So thank God for global warming for ending that ice age; we wouldn't be here otherwise.
People such as former American vice-president Al Gore say that millions of us will die because of global warming, which I think is a pretty stupid thing to say if you've got no proof. And my opinion is that there is absolutely no proof that CO2 has anything to do with any impending catastrophe. The science has, quite simply, gone awry.
In fact, it's not even science any more; it's anti-science.
There's no proof, it's just projections, and if you look at the models people such as Gore use, you can see they cherry-pick the ones that support their beliefs. To date, the way the so-called Greens and the BBC, the Royal Society and even political parties have handled this smacks of McCarthyism at its worst.
Global warming is part of a natural cycle and there's nothing we can actually do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist.
And how were we convinced that this problem exists, even though all the evidence from measurements goes against the fact? God knows. Yes, the lakes in Africa are drying up. But that's not global warming. They're drying up for the very simple reason that most of them have dams around them.
So the water once used by local people is now used in the production of cut flowers and vegetables for the supermarkets of Europe. One of Gore's biggest clangers was saying that the Aral Sea in Uzbekistan was drying up because of global warming.
Well, everyone knows, because it was all over the news 20 years ago, that the Russians were growing cotton there at the time and that for every tonne of cotton you produce you use a vast amount of water. The thing that annoys me most is that there are genuine environmental problems that desperately require attention. I'm still an environmentalist, I'm still a Green and I'm still campaigning to stop the destruction of the biodiversity of the world. But money will be wasted on trying to solve this global warming "problem" that I would much rather was used for looking after the people of the world. Being ignored by the likes of the BBC does not really bother me, not when there are bigger problems at stake.
I might not be on TV any more but I still go around the world campaigning about these important issues. For example, we must stop the destruction of tropical rainforests, something I've been saying for 35 years.
Mother nature will balance things out, but not if we interfere by destroying rainforests and overfishing the seas. That is where the real environmental catastrophe could occur.
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Neat article Mel. I've noticed this too, even on online forums, the moment you slightly mention that global warming isn't all it's cracked up to be you're dismissed as an uneducated miscreant.
I'm sorry, but that is considered science? Shutting up the other side of the story and ignoring facts contrary to your hypotheses? We didn't learn that in my research methods classes.
1I remember reading this very article; I think it was last week. I have never been a believer that man was responsible for global warming, and if in fact we were getting warmer there would be a net benefit to the world as a whole. Can you imagine the amount of grain that could be grown in Canada and Siberia, if the areas had any kind of adequate growing season? The fact is we are entering into a period of about 20 or so years where the world’s temperature will be dropping (and maybe significantly). There is a direct correlation between sunspot activity and global temperatures (the more sunspots the warmer the world). There is an 11 year cycle (actually it is really a 22 year cycle). We are in the start of a global cooling. The worst of these was called the “Maunder minimum”, which gave us our “little ice age” 1645 – 1715. There was a Russian paper I read a few years ago that talked about a second longer sunspot cycle and that cycle was going to coincide with the current “11 year cycle”. If that is true, he predicts another Maunder minimum type climate world wide, he says we have a 50 year period of cold weather heading our way. I wonder if Al Gore will then recommend the world burn all their tires, and autumn leaves, fire up coal power plants, and get us the hell out of another ice age. LOL
2The earth has been doing this naturally for billions of years! Grrrr...
By the way, you KNOW all the "green" people are gonna congratulate themselves on the cooling period because of their hard work to eliminate global warming.
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3Global warming is part of a natural cycle and there's nothing we can actually do to stop these cycles. The world is now facing spending a vast amount of money in tax to try to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist...." I agree with you, melizzle.
I have only read a couple of books about the subject, and done some studying on my own online, so I'm no expert on the subject of climate or weather, but it's seemed for awhile that a big deal is being made over not much, and I always wondered, why we bother? It's like the big Y2K scare business; I guess it's just human nature at work again; we have to have something to get all riled up about. As far as the politicians are concerned, blaming climate changes on the people at-large is better than placing the blame on the big oil companies and fishery businesses
"If the lion lies down with the lamb, the lamb must be replaced frequently." --Attributed to Martin Luther In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist violence of September 11, 2001.
4Syako- ---"I'm sorry, but that is considered science? Shutting up the other side of the story and ignoring facts contrary to your hypotheses? We didn't learn that in my research methods classes..."----Just wait 'till hithatsmybike sees this post, if she ever does!
"If the lion lies down with the lamb, the lamb must be replaced frequently." --Attributed to Martin Luther In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist violence of September 11, 2001.
5Thanks for this! I just don't see how we can move forward when there is debate still to be had. It's not a democracy if you shut out the dissenters.
6I like this article - gives me something to consider!!!
7melizzle, great article! Thanks for posting.
I think people really need to educate themselves about the myth that is global warming...well, now they are calling it climate change. I think you might find this video/documentary fascinating and very eye opening...the hubby and I did! (It's not your regular global warming is myth documentary.) I can't stress or recommend the importance of this documentary enough. http://teamsugar.com/group/974220/blog/2512985
8"Climate change is all about cycles. It's a natural thing and has always happened. When the Romans lived in Britain they were growing very good red grapes and making wine on the borders of Scotland. It was evidently a lot warmer."
This is exactly what I've been saying for perhaps ten years now!
Does anyone remember any of the TV programs by James Burke?
9They pre-date the whole "global warming / climate change" hysteria.
I think that's where I first heard that little fact about growing wine grapes in England.
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Laintem, it was a lot later then that, the middle ages have records of debates of how the wine from Engand was as good as, if not better thenthe French. This was IMMEDIATLY prior to the Maunder minimum.
10Sorry for forgetting the closing tag on the italics!
Thanks, Grandpa. There's so much reading I'd like to do, if only the obligations of real life didn't interfere....
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville
Exactly. The earth goes through cycles.
Doesn't anyone read up on Geology anymore? Oh, wait, I don't think that's a requirement in schools.. Or life..
12Crap, the earth is cooling just as I thought! I'm going to go idle my pickup for a while outside because gas prices are so cheap. Anything to help!
13Honestly, I'm not sure what to think of global warming. But I do think it's important to see a number of opinions on the issue.
14I'm all for doing things to help the environment, but I've always thought the scare over global warming was crap. When they started calling it climate change instead of global warming, I laughed my @ss off. To me, that was the ultimate indication that the global warming theory didn't hold water.
15I agree with SKB and Mel. I've always loved "saving the Earth" since I was old enough to organize litter-pickups in my neighborhood as a wee little girl.
I just think that this theory of global warming has had unprecedented (at least for me, in my short little life time) silencing of the dissent and contrary opinions.
I prefer not to be scared crapless (which I guess is what the left so lovingly calls "fear-mongering") into doing things to keep our planet beautiful and clean --- I do those things regardless of warming or cooling or anything.
16I wish more people would wake up to the myth of global warming. Nature works these things out on its down.
17You are so right girl! I mean, if you believe in God, how can you be arrogant enough to believe that he didn't plan what is happening right now? He is all knowing, and He created the heavens and earth. If in fact we are in the midst of some type of global crisis I refuse to be concerned about it, because I believe it is all part of His plan for us.
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18If you always do as you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten.
Don't you ladies know that it is not called global warming anymore? It is called climate change!
Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
19Oops. My bad. Climate Change.
20OK guys, if we start recording temperatures in NYC starting January 1, and wait till August 15, and draw a graph showing the increase of temperature over 7 1/2 months, how many more months would it be before the oceans boiled?
21Grandpa, you lost me at "If we start"...
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22If you always do as you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten.
Let us say that we can show that the temperatures moved in a straight line over 8 months from an average of 32 degrees to an average of 86 degrees. That would mean a monthly average increase of 6.75 degrees/ month. Now water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level under standard air pressure. Well since we are at 86 degrees in August, it would be a little less then 19 months before the oceans boil. OMG, someone tell Al Gore, we have less then 1 .5 years before we all die because of “climate change”.
I am using "Gore logic" here
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24If you always do as you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten.
That's a very good point Grandpa. We've been using the temperatures from thousands of years, and trying to make the the next 5 or 6 fit into that pattern (and being suprised whn they don't). From the 30 + years I've been around, I've noticed that the part of the earth that I've been around in has experienced very wild tempurature swings, and to try to exrapulate what has happened based on a 10,000 yr old average doesn't work.
25Actually, Dave, I'm sure we don't have measured, reliable records for more than 100 years or so.
Even then, they are probably less complete and accurate from some parts of the world, as compared to others.
If you're looking at a 300 or 500 year cycle, just as an example, we are just not sufficiently informed to analyze it.
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville
Actually Lain they have fairly accurate records of annual temperatures going back tens of thousands of years. They use Ice bores from both poles, tree rings and sediment layers. They pretty much correlate with each other. As far as daily records, those go back before the Renaissance. The monks as well as the Vatican kept all kinds of records involving weather, stars, etc.
27Grandpa, yes, ice bores. I learned about those in Geology over the summer. Very interesting.
28Thanks, Grandpa!
I hoped you would pop in and follow up on your earlier comment.
The monks records would cover Europe, at least.
29What about Asia, Africa, the Americas?
Are ice bores that good as a reference, to cover the globe?
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -- Alexis de Tocqueville
It is amalgam of sources. You forget tree rings and sediment layers. You also had ice borings on various glaciers, but that is a much shorter period geologically speaking, a lot depends on the rate of movement of the glacier. All these sources compliment each other. Also I have never heard of one part of the earth get warmer, while another got colder over any meaningful period of time.
30Sometimes I love this place.
31You're all a great and interesting bunch of people, and together, doubly so!
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